From: Haney Nimr <hnimr@uoft02.utoledo.edu
To: Thomas (Aalim) Fevens <fevens@cs.queensu.ca
Cc: owner-msa-org@msa-natl.org <owner-msa-org@msa-natl.org;
webmaster@msa-natl.org <webmaster@msa-natl.org; president@msa-natl.org
<president@msa-natl.org; vp-usa@msa-natl.org <vp-usa@msa-natl.org
Date: Wednesday, March 10, 1999 8:38 AM
Subject: Re: What does MSA have to hide?
> Assalamu 'Alaikum,
wa 'alaykum as-Salaam br. Aalim,
Thank you for your response.
> First, the only reason that the first press release was posted
> on MSA-ORG by myself was that it was co-sponsored by MSA
> National, and because of that reason MSA Chapters had a right
> to know what exactly MSA National was co-sponsoring.
Likewise they should also be able to know how what MSA-National
co-sponsored on their behalf completely misquoted and misinterpreted Shaykh
Hisham Kabbani.
> Posts that
> are not directly relevant to MSAs and their issues are not
> usually posted on MSA-ORG, and press release was an exception
> due to the above reason.
If the condemnation was deemed relevant to MSAs, then so should ISCA's
response be deemed relevant.
And was the message that was posted a few weeks ago from a brother in
Canada encouraging all MSAs to trash their copies of The Muslim Magazine
that they might receive in the mail relevant? If all it takes for me to
make a message relevant to MSAs is to add "I encourage all MSAs to..." then
would you then let me post what I had intended to post?
I am sure if I search my memory I might remember a few more posts from
MSA-ORG that were not directly relevant to MSAs. Allah obviously didn't
make me the brightest bulb on the planet, but I don't think he made me the
dimmmest. Br. Aalim, I am having a hard time believing your explanations.
> Secondly, MSA-ORG is not a forum for
> debates, so there is no compulsion to approve rebutals on
> MSA-ORG; there are many other forums for this. For example, on
> MSA-Net, which is also an MSA-National net, the response that
> you are seeking to post and numerous other responses have been
> posted. To allow these on MSA-ORG would be redundant, and would
> just clutter the net.
By posting the URL for people to read the response I was hardly starting a
debate. After that message I would have been done, and you would have been
free not to allow any responses that resulted from my post to appear on the
list.
If you posting the condemnation wasn't redundant, then my posting
information about a response to the condemnation wouldn't have been
redundant either. Like I said, after that it would have ended.
Br. Aalim, what do you have to fear? You are acting president of
MSA-national now aren't you? So you must have had some say in signing the
condemnation? What is it? You don't want the people to know that you took
part in completely misquoting and distorting Shaykh Hisham Kabbani's words?
If you think you did the right thing acting on behalf of the MSAs then you
should welcome people reading ISCA's response. Remember, Allah made Truth
clear from falsehood. If you think you did the right thing, then you would
be confident that the other brothers and sisters would also be able to see
what you and the other orgs. saw in Shaykh Hisham's state department
address.
And one other thing, why wasn't this explanation sent after my first
attempt last week?
> I am sorry if these policies do not met with your approval.
Are you really?
I am going to resubmit my post again...slightly revised. You have another
chance to post it. Br. Aalim, remember that Allah is taking account of
everything that is taking place. You may be able to ignore me, but you
can't ignore or hide from Allah (swt).
> Wassalamu 'Alaikum,
> Aalim Z. Fevens, President
was-Salaam,
Haney Nimr
